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http://nmaps.net/user/EdoI · by **EdoI** » 110/2009 @872

This is what I get when I go to the AltArc...

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 111/2009 @175

EdoI wrote:This is what I get when I go to the AltArc...

I'm looking into that right now. I don't know what's causing it, but it might be that the httpd is down at the moment.

by **Arachnid** » 118/2009 @362

Gforce wrote:
incluye wrote:Oh, yeah, that's probably not good. Is that why the site is down? Maintenance?
*nods*
I've begun to make it more efficient, and so far I've gotten the lag down to about 60% of what it originally was. That's still unacceptably slow, but I have plans to make it even faster.
Here's an idea of how the original system worked:
- First, create an array containing all the maps in the entire database.
- Generate the appropriate HTML code for every map and store it in the same array.
- Filter results based upon the search query and date.
- Sort the filtered results by the user's preference.
- Display the first ten of those results (or whatever count=x is).
Obviously this was bad. Now it still creates an array of every map, but it only stores the necessary information (map ID and the sort parameter, such as the map's rating, votes, favorites, or whatever).

Ready to take back those things you said about NUMA's sorting and filtering being easy to improve yet? ;)

Seriously, though, if you haven't already, you need to look at indexing, and learn about big-O runtime. In a nutshell, if you continue to take your current approach, no matter how efficient you make it, it's going to be unacceptably slow once you get a decent number of maps. This is only going to work at all if you do your filtering in the database, with indexes, and only retrieve matching maps.

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 137/2009 @115

Arachnid wrote:Ready to take back those things you said about NUMA's sorting and filtering being easy to improve yet? ;)

Yeah, you got me. :/

Arachnid wrote:Seriously, though, if you haven't already, you need to look at indexing, and learn about big-O runtime. In a nutshell, if you continue to take your current approach, no matter how efficient you make it, it's going to be unacceptably slow once you get a decent number of maps. This is only going to work at all if you do your filtering in the database, with indexes, and only retrieve matching maps.

I've been pondering such a system, and I still don't know exactly how I'm going to implement it. For certain, though, there will be database-level indexing before I release the final AltArc.

Edit: I've begun writing the indexer, but have yet to implement it throughout the site. Also, I decided to use AJAX for favoriting and saving maps; voting and commenting may eventually follow suit. JQuery will make things beautiful.
Edit2: The caching is almost complete. I just need to iron out a few bugs in the new search system, and it will be done.
Edit3: AltArc is now very close to completion, as I've fixed the aforementioned bug and added sorting functionality to users and packs. All I need to do now is implement comment reporting and batch-submissions to AltArc and Numa. I'm also going to change the implementation of "default sort parameters" because it's crappy at the moment. :|

http://nmaps.net/user/_destiny%5E%2D · by **Destiny** » 138/2009 @807

Can't wait to see this done :D

http://nmaps.net/user/Nexx · by **Nexx** » 138/2009 @865

Is this not being beta-ed atm? 'Cuz I haven't been able to load the site for ages. And if it's not being beta-ed as you're adding the features you mentioned, won't it need to be before it can really be called "completed"?

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 138/2009 @992

Avarin wrote:Is this not being beta-ed atm? 'Cuz I haven't been able to load the site for ages. And if it's not being beta-ed as you're adding the features you mentioned, won't it need to be before it can really be called "completed"?

Of course. I've been working offline for awhile, and I'm not even going to bother with finding a webhost for now. Pretty much every free host has everything I need minus one feature, whether it be GD, htaccess, or some other wacky configuration that breaks everything. I'll get a beta going once I complete my to-do list, which can be found here. As you can see, there isn't too much left to do, and since tomorrow is my last day of school (WOOOOT), I'll probably get a beta up and running sometime this week. It will also be the last beta until AltArc is finally considered 'complete'.

It'll be awesome. Seriously. After I finish the last major functions, I'm going to start using jQuery and Ajax to polish up the site even more. :)

http://nmaps.net/user/nDEAVOUR · by **Inspired** » 140/2009 @295

How's it looking IE wise?

Im just crossing my fingers.

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 140/2009 @674

With IE8, the only problems on AltArc involve unsupported CSS3 tricks. It doesn't hurt the functionality, but some parts of the site look a little weird (checkboxes have a box around them which is only supposed to apply to text inputs, but IE doesn't know how to interpret "input[type='text']").

http://nmaps.net/user/cucumber_boy · by **SampsonHammerjack** » 140/2009 @811

I can't say I'll be using AltArc, no matter how much better it is unless it is somehow connected to the current NUMA map database. Oh and being able to load its maps in NReality is something that I would put above all else... its just too handy to leave, but of course, you can change any of that.

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 140/2009 @937

kkstrong wrote:I can't say I'll be using AltArc, no matter how much better it is unless it is somehow connected to the current NUMA map database. Oh and being able to load its maps in NReality is something that I would put above all else... its just too handy to leave, but of course, you can change any of that.

I've PM'd Unreality about support for downloading AltArc maps within the game. Thanks for reminding me about that.

http://nmaps.net/user/cucumber_boy · by **SampsonHammerjack** » 140/2009 @964

Or IRC sometimes on #n-highscores from about 8pm - 5am PST.

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 159/2009 @872

The beta will hopefully be permanently online within the next few days. I'm just waiting for a confirmation e-mail from the webhost. Yes, this means AltArc is pretty much done right now (except for clearing out any bugs or missed suggestions, which is why it's still technically a beta).

http://altarc.sector-five.net/ is online! Register and alert me via PM or IRC of any bugs you find.

http://nmaps.net/user/Nexx · by **Nexx** » 159/2009 @896

I tried to register and got a strange error. I PMed you the details just to be safe.

http://nmaps.net/user/Tunco123 · by **Tunco** » 159/2009 @897

Avarin wrote:I tried to register and got a strange error. I PMed you the details just to be safe.

Me either. A possible solution for that?
I'll PM you later, GForce.

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 160/2009 @175

I changed some file permissions on the new host; hopefully that will resolve the problems.

http://nmaps.net/user/Nexx · by **Nexx** » 160/2009 @283

Are news entries purposefully categorized as maps? Right now, you can hit "random map" and get one of the news items. And it's less important, but the rating text shouldn't be "vote on this map" for news items.

Also, "recently viewed maps" doesn't seem to work for me. I viewed both of the two maps there and then tried that feature, but nothing happened.

Also, the site just went down as I was using it, according to http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com

EDIT: Site is back up and recently viewed maps is working, so scratch those. My first "paragraph" still stands.

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 160/2009 @759

Avarin wrote:Are news entries purposefully categorized as maps? Right now, you can hit "random map" and get one of the news items. And it's less important, but the rating text shouldn't be "vote on this map" for news items.

Yes, they are categorized as maps, partially because it's easier to code it that way, and also because it's more efficient to use a single database for both. I may end up changing the way "random map" works- right now it just picks a number between 1 and [number of maps], meaning it can even take you to a delisted map.

http://nmaps.net/user/BionicCryonic · by **Bio** » 164/2009 @199

Sweet. And for packs, do we just slip in a ton of level data for multiple levels? The interface for packs confuses me.

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 164/2009 @040

BionicCryonic wrote:Sweet. And for packs, do we just slip in a ton of level data for multiple levels? The interface for packs confuses me.

You create a private pack (assuming you're the only author), then you use the map submission interface and choose your pack from the list of map types. Hold Ctrl and click to select more than one, if you want to label it as 'action' or whatever in addition to your pack.

http://nmaps.net/user/BionicCryonic · by **Bio** » 165/2009 @113

So do I add maps to it over time? Or do I just put a ton of maps in at once?

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 165/2009 @822

BionicCryonic wrote:So do I add maps to it over time? Or do I just put a ton of maps in at once?

I may eventually allow you to batch-upload maps, but I have to figure out a way to make that -not- fill up the Newest Maps page first. I'm open for suggestions.

http://nmaps.net/user/Nexx · by **Nexx** » 165/2009 @848

How do you get the packs thing to work?

I tried making a new pack, but then I realized I don't have any maps. So then subbed a map, but now I have no clue how to put it in the pack. Even if I had to declare what was in it at the time of creation, shouldn't there be an "edit pack" option? I'm totally lost here.

http://nmaps.net/user/Fraxtil · by **Fraxtil** » 165/2009 @874

Avarin wrote:How do you get the packs thing to work?

I tried making a new pack, but then I realized I don't have any maps. So then subbed a map, but now I have no clue how to put it in the pack. Even if I had to declare what was in it at the time of creation, shouldn't there be an "edit pack" option? I'm totally lost here.

When you create a pack, it's added to the bottom of the list of map types available- scroll down to find it.

http://nmaps.net/user/BionicCryonic · by **Bio** » 165/2009 @913

Gforce wrote:
BionicCryonic wrote:So do I add maps to it over time? Or do I just put a ton of maps in at once?

I may eventually allow you to batch-upload maps, but I have to figure out a way to make that -not- fill up the Newest Maps page first. I'm open for suggestions.

How about a seperate 'pack' listing where instead of haveing a ton of maps you can just Batch-upload a premade pack.

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